Trail Contruction and Maintenance
- TrialsPaul
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Trail Contruction and Maintenance
The AMA has available a free report on trails.
"Off-Highway Motorcycle & ATV Trails Guidelines for Design, Construction, Mainatance and User Satistfaction"
http://www.ama-cycle.org/legisltn/downl ... Report.pdf
It makes some interesting points on trails that we should think about when clearing the trails in McLean Creek.
"Off-Highway Motorcycle & ATV Trails Guidelines for Design, Construction, Mainatance and User Satistfaction"
http://www.ama-cycle.org/legisltn/downl ... Report.pdf
It makes some interesting points on trails that we should think about when clearing the trails in McLean Creek.
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Excellent post Paul, i think i should have read this before our big trail cleanup days (this is a large booklet, i only paged through it so far). Important information when concidering opening up a trail or even designing a trail. With the large amount of blowdown (Mclean Creek, this is not even seeing the huge amount at Fallen Timber) it is hard to fine tune and criticise trail openings because we are just excited to have some trails reopened, but the trails we do put our effort into i think should be concidered as far as flow and terrain. It is really rewarding having flowing trails that skirt ridge tops instead of wind down through soggy bottoms, sometimes this cannot be avoided though. with the incresed amount of single track users, this is definately something to concider.
Some sections of trails go through areas that are completely fallen in. what's the point of sawing through that? so if we go around, where's the best route and what's gonna be the most exciting when it is open?? just something to think about. I also like Dirtyboy and friends obstacle building ideas, keep it up! WFO and myself build a log hop feature for the HS coarse (unfortunately it dissapeared) maybe more to come.
Some sections of trails go through areas that are completely fallen in. what's the point of sawing through that? so if we go around, where's the best route and what's gonna be the most exciting when it is open?? just something to think about. I also like Dirtyboy and friends obstacle building ideas, keep it up! WFO and myself build a log hop feature for the HS coarse (unfortunately it dissapeared) maybe more to come.
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- thumper-darryl
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Go to www.nohvcc.org
There you can find a ton of material in their library. We have used data from here for Rec Corridors, and recently SRD has seen the value of their programs, and material.
There you can find a ton of material in their library. We have used data from here for Rec Corridors, and recently SRD has seen the value of their programs, and material.
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Sadly, local SRD did not admit to any knowledge of NOHVCC, or their trail expertise. But after getting NOHVCC to a Ghost meeting, SRD wants to learn all they can. A Positive move.
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- TrialsPaul
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Here is another though about trail maintance. I know a lot of work goes into preparing a course for a race, clearing the course and flagging (Thanks for all your efforts), what about spending time repairing trails after a race?
As part of the permit for a race in the Forest Service areas in Colorado, after the race you have to go through the trail, remove the arrows and ribbons, and rake in all the berms and fix the rutted up trails. The trail usually ends up in better shape then when the race was started. This all occurs on a designated trail system in Colorado.
As part of the permit for a race in the Forest Service areas in Colorado, after the race you have to go through the trail, remove the arrows and ribbons, and rake in all the berms and fix the rutted up trails. The trail usually ends up in better shape then when the race was started. This all occurs on a designated trail system in Colorado.
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I think this is one of the best ideas I have heard in quite awhile!! Great idea and great post.....and nice change from the personal attacks and other BS we've been reading.TrialsPaul wrote:Here is another though about trail maintance. I know a lot of work goes into preparing a course for a race, clearing the course and flagging (Thanks for all your efforts), what about spending time repairing trails after a race?
As part of the permit for a race in the Forest Service areas in Colorado, after the race you have to go through the trail, remove the arrows and ribbons, and rake in all the berms and fix the rutted up trails. The trail usually ends up in better shape then when the race was started. This all occurs on a designated trail system in Colorado.
I think trail cleanup is a great idea too. I've been on the race course prep crew with the guys and it does improve the trail nicely. Post race cleanup would only improve it even more. It'd provide a nice assurance that we don't loose the opportunity for the next race as well.
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We do spend a significant amount of time when preparing courses by doing dirt work where necessary (filling rain ruts, draining puddles, etc) so that the trail is in better shape than before we started. After riding our race course on the clean-up day I was amazed to see how well the trail had held up. It is a great idea to spend a bit more time cleaning the trail up when done but alas by then the volunteer support has dried up.TrialsPaul wrote:Here is another though about trail maintance. I know a lot of work goes into preparing a course for a race, clearing the course and flagging (Thanks for all your efforts), what about spending time repairing trails after a race?
As part of the permit for a race in the Forest Service areas in Colorado, after the race you have to go through the trail, remove the arrows and ribbons, and rake in all the berms and fix the rutted up trails. The trail usually ends up in better shape then when the race was started. This all occurs on a designated trail system in Colorado.
Perhaps as part of a trail management, stewardship program we would be forced to put this level of effort into all of our trails.
The above link is a great resource. Thanks for posting it.
It's almost impossible to find guys to pull ribboning down let alone maintain trail after the race and then if we use up volunteer efforts for maintaining trails after a race then we loose volunteer effort at the start to put on a successful race. if any of you guys want to volunteer, please help coarse clearing and ribboning, this will be a big task for an XC. then help pull all the ribbon after the race, then if we still all have energy, lets break out the rakes and shovels. everyones help makes a huge difference.
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I agree with BigDog. I'm betting that there are a lot more entries at the Colorado races, and therefore more volunteers or maybe even money for workers to maintain the trail after the race. If there are more entries then the trail will need more maintenance. Compared to a GNCC we have about 5% of the entries. 5% of the riders has a much smaller impact.
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