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Moab is CLOSING!!!??? UPDATED HELP

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The new Moab Resource Management Plan will be finalized by next summer. Depending on how things go, somewhere between 3300 and 3900 miles of EXISTING, DOCUMENTED routes WILL be closed.

The public comment period is open until Friday November 30th!

Your comments will determine how many miles and trails are lost

If you've been to Moab, or you ever want to go to Moab then you need to speak up

Submitting a comment is easy! You can send it via U.S. Mail or e-mail.


http://www.blm.gov/ut/st/en/fo/moab/planning.html

High-up anti-OHV rep boasted that we wouldn't even come close to matching the number of comments they will submit. They are counting on the apathy of 4x4 users and dirt bikers to institute these closures in Moab. Don't let them win!

Spend 10 minutes to help save a trail!
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Seems we have the same issues both above and below the 49th.

Great find, thanks for posting.

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Need US Address to post comments electronically.

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Re: Moab is CLOSING!!!???

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Spinalguy wrote:Spend 10 minutes to help save a trail!
We are supposed to comment including page numbers and references on a 954 page document. Spinalguy, if you read the document and give me some issues to bring up complete with page number references, I'll be happy to fill out the electronic comment document.

We have to work smarter at this than having everyone read, let alone understand the document then comment on it.

I feel like I've been buried in paper. :banghead:

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Re: Moab is CLOSING!!!???

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dirtyboy wrote:
Spinalguy wrote:Spend 10 minutes to help save a trail!
We are supposed to comment including page numbers and references on a 954 page document. Spinalguy, if you read the document and give me some issues to bring up complete with page number references, I'll be happy to fill out the electronic comment document.

We have to work smarter at this than having everyone read, let alone understand the document then comment on it.

I feel like I've been buried in paper. :banghead:
Ditto! just trying to go through this and its quite the task....help?

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he,he,he...i am on it :thumbsup:
i will gather the info needed and report back. Give me a day.
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This link is where you will find the link to electronically submit comments.
http://www.blm.gov/ut/st/en/fo/moab/pla ... olved.html

The following info is suggested responses. In Moab, the trail systems are shared by everyone. There is no division amongst users.
This info i provide comes from 4x4 enthusiasts but keep in mind that closing any trail affects all of us. It will not be a user designated system...its all or nothing. So, substitute the word 4x4 for OHV or Dirtbike, etc.

Please read the step-by-step instructions below. We've made it very easy for you.

As always, if you have any questions or need any help, please call or email.

Brian Hawthorne
208-237-1008 ext 102
Ric Foster
208-237-1008 ext 107

INSTRUCTIONS:
1) Read the SITUATION statement below and use the addresses provided there to prepare a draft email on your computer. Once you get your draft email started, go to the COMMENT SUGGESTIONS section.

2) In the COMMENT SUGGESTIONS section, first read the "Issue" statement. YOU DO NOT HAVE TO COMMENT ON EVERY ISSUE! And you don't need to use every bullet point comment in your letter. The idea is to mix and match your comments on the issues that are important to you. Savvy?

3) Next, use the "Comment Suggestions" below each Issue as materials to help you write your comment letter (each suggested comment has a bullet). Again, you don't need to use every comment bullet point. Mix and match, and add some personal info if you want.

IMPORTANT NOTE:
A good comment letter starts with a brief paragraph about yourself and a bit about what you like to do when you visit the Moab field office. Also, anonymous comments are often discarded, so be sure to include your name and address in your email.

SITUATION:
The Draft Resource Management Plan (DRMP) and Draft Environmental Impact Statement (DEIS) for the Utah Bureau of Land Management (BLM) Moab Field Office has been released for public review and comment. The Moab DRMP/DEIS and supporting information is available on the project web site at: http://www.blm.gov/ut/st/en/fo/moab/planning.html.

In addition to a new RMP, Moab BLM will be formulating a Travel Plan for motorized vehicles and mountain bikes. Motorized and mountain bike travel will be limited to designated roads, trails and areas.

The BLM has set a deadline of November 30, 2007, for receiving information and comments pertaining to the Alternatives and the analysis presented in the DEIS.

Feedback regarding the four proposed alternatives will be used to formulate a Proposed Resource Management Plan, and ultimately, a Final Resource Management Plan and Travel Plan.

Comments and other information may be submitted electronically at: mailto:UT_Moab_Comments@blm.gov.

Comments and other information may also be submitted by mail to:
Moab Field Office RMP Comments, Bureau of Land Management, Moab Field Office, 82 East Dogwood, Moab, UT 84532.

COMMENT SUGGESTIONS:

Issue: The "Park-ification" of BLM lands
Sadly, today's BLM seems to have all but abandoned the time-honored and proven principles of Multiple Use/Sustained Yield.

BLM lands are meant to be different than National Parks or Wilderness. The BLM has a Congressional mandate to manage these lands pursuant to the Multiple Use/Sustained Yield paradigm described in law. We believe under multiple use/sustained yield, OHV enthusiasts, mountain bikers, hikers, energy developers, equestrians and the like can share public lands and use them wisely.

Comment Suggestions:
a.. Not all uses are mutually exclusive. There are multiple uses that can and should occur parallel to one another.
b.. I believe that recreational, agricultural and industrial uses of public lands can and should coexist and share our public lands.
c.. Management objectives that use such things as primitive recreation zones, Areas of Critical Environmental Concern, and so-called "areas with wilderness character" to create a de-facto Wilderness management are unlawful.
d.. Congress put a deadline on inventory and study for Wilderness. The BLM should no longer be allowed to manage solely for "wilderness character."
e.. I strongly oppose SUWA's proposal.
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Issue: BLM formulated three Alternatives, but there isn't much difference between them and worse, the "pro-motorized" Alternative is LESS friendly to motors than the Preferred Alternative!

Alternative D is supposed to emphasize motorized use, but puts the popular Rabbit Valley/Westwater trails area into "custodial management" with a hiking and equestrian emphasis! Honestly, BLM, what in the world are you thinking?!?!

Comment Suggestions:

a.. Alternative D fails to provide a true motorized focus.
b.. Tell the BLM that you are concerned that many of the restrictions in all of the Action Alternatives are simply not justified. Tell the BLM that the FEIS should clearly draw a connection between the facts on the ground and the decision made.
c.. I strongly support designating the Utah Rims Special Recreation Management Area with a motorized and mountain bike emphasis.
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Issue: White Wash Sand Dunes management plan is totally unacceptable and unworkable (BRC details here)

Comment Suggestions:

a.. Tell the BLM that you oppose the fee system contemplated in Alternatives C and D. Fee systems are inherently controversial and often unpopular with the recreating public. The Final RMP should not require a fee system.
b.. If funding for infrastructure needs cannot be met with existing funding and grant programs, then any fee system should require the full involvement of the Recreational Fee Advisory Council, BLM's Resource Advisory Council and the affected user group.
c.. BLM's open area in Alternative C and D must be expanded. The current proposal is unworkable because it confines a huge amount of vehicle use into a very small area and the area's boundaries are not well defined and cannot be easily identified on the ground.
d.. Requiring fences around the cottonwood trees and "water sources" is both impractical and unnecessary. We strongly oppose this provision of the Draft Plan.
e.. BLM's open area at White Wash Sand Dunes should include the popular and challenging hill-climb on the West of the Sand Dunes.
f.. BLM's open area should be located along easily identified geologic features, or preferably along boundary roads of Ruby Ranch Road on the West, Blue Hills Road on the North, and Duma Point/Ruby Ranch (back way) on the East.
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Issue: BLM states the 'user conflict' issue as a question: How should recreational uses be managed to limit conflicts among recreational users? A quick read of BLM's draft plan indicates that their answer is to create "exclusive use zones."

Comment Suggestions:

a.. When addressing "user conflict," the final plan should avoid "exclusive use zones" where, based on perceived or potential "user conflict," one or more "conflicting uses" is prohibited.
b.. In order to address the "user conflict" issue, the final plan should direct land managers to educate the non-motorized visitors where they may encounter vehicle traffic in certain areas as well as informing them of areas where they may avoid such encounters.
c.. The final plan should direct land managers to educate vehicle-assisted visitors of where a road or trail might be shared with non-motorized visitors, and if appropriate, direct slower speeds.
d.. If "user conflict" can be documented, the BLM should simply re-route one of the uses. For example, a hiking trail can be constructed to avoid a section of popular OHV route. Or an equestrian trail may be constructed to avoid a section of popular mountain bike route, etc.
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Issue: Moab BLM is closing a huge number of dispersed campsites. (See BRC's details on BLM's proposal)

Because vehicles are not permitted to travel off designated routes - for any reason - the Moab BLM is proposing a "vehicle camping only in designated campsites" in the entire Field Office. Such a restrictive policy would be appropriate for National Parks or National Monuments, but for Public Lands this is truly unheard of.

Comment Suggestions:

a.. Tell the BLM that you oppose the camping policy as outlined in Appendix E.
b.. The analysis does not tell us how many campsites would be closed under each Alternative.
c.. Tell the BLM that you support a policy where existing campsites are open unless determined closure was necessary via lawful public planning process.
d.. Tell the BLM that it is very important that the final plan must mandate full public involvement in any establishment and management of "restricted camping areas" or "controlled camping areas."
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Issue: Special Recreation Management Areas

BLM uses something called a "Special Recreation Management Area" to manage recreation. Each SRMA is supposed to have its focus clearly described in the RMP.

Comment Suggestions:

a.. All SRMAs with a motorized focus should include direction regarding when and how additional or expanded routes/areas would be provided should there be a need.
b.. SRMAs and their "focus areas" should avoid excluding other uses categorically. The Preferred Alternative clearly shows Moab BLM recognizes the importance of providing some motorized routes in non-motorized "zones."
c.. The Utah Rims SRMA is necessary to properly manage this popular area. It should have a motorized and mountain bike focus, and include the ability to designate or construct routes should they be needed in the future. In addition, limiting camping to one small designated area, in the RMP, is not wise. The RMP should provide general direction and not limit camping in such a way.
d.. The Utah Rims SRMA should extend further southwest to encompass Mel's Loop and beyond. Increased visitation there warrants the more active management of a SRMA. This larger area would also provide enough room for a full-day's motorcycle ride, and the establishment of a mountain bike focus area.
e.. BLM should consider a SRMA in the Yellowcat area. Yellowcat is increasingly popular for four wheeling and ATV riding. Designating a SRMA there could utilize the dense network of mine roads that already exist.
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Issue: Although many popular ATV routes are open roads in Moab BLM's Travel Plan, some ATV trails are not proposed as open and some of the Motorcycle routes should be designated as ATV/Motorcycle trails as well.

Comment Suggestions:

a.. Some of the "motorcycle trails" are very popular with ATV users. The Final Travel Plan should designate a mix of single track and ATV trails.
b.. The FEIS should consider designating more ATV trails, especially between White Wash and Red Wash. We strongly suggest looking closely at the proposal developed by Ride with Respect.
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Issue: In the Moab Field Office, true mountain bike single track trails are in short supply.

Comment Suggestions:

a.. The Mill Canyon - Sevenmile Rim biking focus area should be expanded as Mill Canyon -Tusher Rims in order to provide better terrain for pedaling.
b.. The Final Plan should extend the South Spanish Valley biking area further south toward Black Ridge.
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Issue: The OHV community generally supports the "travel limited to designated roads trails, and areas. The Moab field office is home to several popular "open areas" but BLM's plan is not quite enough.

Comment Suggestions:

a.. The White Wash open area is much too small. This area should be expanded.
b.. An open area in addition to White Wash could provide different terrain for everything from bicycle free riding, to trials motorcycling, to hardcore rock crawling. As 99% of the Moab Field Office becomes limited to designated routes, open areas play an even more critical role for accommodating specialized sports. Perhaps parts of Black Ridge could remain unrestricted for this purpose.
c.. The Sand Flats Recreation Area could adopt special policies to permit slickrock exploration. We support Ride with Respect's recommendation that mountain bike travel be allowed on any barren rock surface. Slickrock within one hundred yards of a designated route could be open to motorized travel. This two-hundred yard corridor would accommodate the ways that people currently enjoy Sand Flats.
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Issue: Some important motorcycle trails are missing from all alternatives.

The preferred alternative includes about 100 miles of true motorized single-track. Alternative D adds another 100 miles. But in total, the final plan should keep roughly 300 miles of non-road motorcycle routes from being closed.

Comment Suggestions:

a.. Travel Plan Alternative D falls short of providing sufficient motorcycling opportunities. Since no single-track inventory was performed, the BLM should continue accepting data on existing routes and consider them for implementation.
b.. The Utah Rims single-track network should include at least 25 miles of additional routes, in order to be as complete as the Dee Pass network.
c.. In particular, long-distance single-tracks and rugged roads that connect SRMAs offer a unique experience. The Copper Ridge Motorcycle Loop should be combined with Thompson Trail in the final plan.
d.. A few more non-riparian washes should be left open, especially in the Cisco Desert. Wash riding is very popular. These travel-ways provide ATV and motorcycle riders an unconfined challenge that roads cannot.
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Issue: Keep White Wash Sand Dunes Open!

In an incredible show of chutzpah, the Moab BLM has proposed closing White Wash Sand Dunes to motors and making it a "hiking and equestrian" area (in Alternative B).

Comment Suggestions:

a.. I strongly oppose the ACEC proposals in Alternative B. The White Wash ACEC is especially inappropriate.
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Issue: There is a need for additional mountain bike, trials motorcycle and rock crawling focus areas.

The BLM is drastically reducing the "open" areas which will concentrate a lot of use currently dispersed all over the field office. To properly manage recreation, the final plan needs to include additional focus areas.

Comment Suggestions:

a.. Tell the BLM you support the proposal by Ride with Respect for additional mountain bike, trials motorcycle and rockcrawling focus areas.
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Issue: Route specific comments:

It is important to understand that SUWA is spending hundreds of thousands of dollars on photos and "environmental analysis" designed specifically to close individual routes.
Any specific comment on any road or trail, whether proposed as open or closed, is useful and we believe taking the time and effort to do so will be very worthwhile. Use BRC's maps to help you identify the routes. Below are just a few suggestions:

Please keep the following routes open:

a.. The last bit of Gemini Bridges road. There are very few natural stone bridges that can be driven across. This thrill has been available for decades. Please keep this open.
b.. The Thompson Trail and the Copper Ridge loop as proposed by Ride with Respect.
c.. Ten Mile Wash has been a popular OHV route for several decades now. Many riparian washes are being proposed for closure. Popular washes that have had vehicle use for many years should remain open

and some more

http://www.u4wda.org/moab/

and more


http://www.u4wda.org/documents/U4WDA.Mo ... mation.pdf
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i will spend time going through this and try and make it clear and concise to dirtbike users. IF they succeed in closing the areas, it will affect all dessert riding :crybaby:
i will report back.
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Well, its hard and consuming. Each individual commenting has to give reasons why they would not like area, trails, sand dunes, etc closing.
If its a copy/paste reply, it is discounted.

i guess anything is better than nothing? Use the same reasons why it is important to you and your family to not see OUR areas get shut down. Substitute the area of ours to Moab.
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man, fingers are sore from typing. Done my part.

as a state and zip code I used the moab address on the website. I did put my full canadian address in the address line though.

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