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I love my 4 stroke bike but today I learned something about having a 20 micron or some even have a 10 micron fuel filter.

The bike was turning over fast enough to start but it wouldn't start. So I checked the spark plug and it looked fine and it had excellent spark. Next I checked the fuel line and fuel filter. I found a nice little ice cube in the fuel filter that was starving the bike for fuel. After it thawed out it ran perfect. Moral of the story is to use a gas line antifreeze.

Thanks to WRocks for helping me not hurt my bike. WRocks informed me that the standard Methyl Hydrate, Methyl Alcohol, or Methanol type gas line anti-freeze is NOT good for our bikes. Apparently, the methanol turns acid during combustion and would be poor for aluminum heads and such. He suggests using IsoPropyl Alcohol, or IPA as a gas-line anti-freeze or ethanol based gas line anti-freeze.

So 50ml of gas line anti-freeze in a jerry can is a good thing. :thumbsup:

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Could you just put a drain on the lowest part of the line and keep the tank full between rides?
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Another reason to ride 2 strokes.

Sorry about your luck Dave, great day today...conditions were mint!

And in all seriousness great info, cheers to you and WR

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Why not try lower grade gas with ethanhol and other additives already added. Doesn't make sense to me to pay for premium then start adding stuff to it if mid grade or regular will give the same result.
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thirtyseven wrote:Could you just put a drain on the lowest part of the line and keep the tank full between rides?
its not a 172

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i just put my bike by my truck exhaust if i am transporting it on very cold days. Never had a problem getting it started with exhaust warming it up while i dressed.
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axel99 wrote:Why not try lower grade gas with ethanhol and other additives already added. Doesn't make sense to me to pay for premium then start adding stuff to it if mid grade or regular will give the same result.
I was wondering about that if the octane level was sufficient in the bike. I might give this a try.
Spinalguy wrote:i just put my bike by my truck exhaust if i am transporting it on very cold days. Never had a problem getting it started with exhaust warming it up while i dressed.
That's what I did the other day. The engine was warm to the touch after that but it wasn't enough to thaw out the ice in the line.

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dirtyboy wrote:
axel99 wrote:Why not try lower grade gas with ethanhol and other additives already added. Doesn't make sense to me to pay for premium then start adding stuff to it if mid grade or regular will give the same result.
I was wondering about that if the octane level was sufficient in the bike. I might give this a try.
Spinalguy wrote:i just put my bike by my truck exhaust if i am transporting it on very cold days. Never had a problem getting it started with exhaust warming it up while i dressed.
That's what I did the other day. The engine was warm to the touch after that but it wasn't enough to thaw out the ice in the line.
that sucks db. Had you been storing the bike in the trailer during the freeze? Mine has never gotten that frozen but i do put it in heated garage after any winter rides.
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Spinalguy wrote:i just put my bike by my truck exhaust if i am transporting it on very cold days. Never had a problem getting it started with exhaust warming it up while i dressed.
That's like preheating the the bike for about a hour :smirk:
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axel99 wrote:
Spinalguy wrote:i just put my bike by my truck exhaust if i am transporting it on very cold days. Never had a problem getting it started with exhaust warming it up while i dressed.
That's like preheating the the bike for about a hour :smirk:
:excuse: i try and dress quickly :lol:
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Yes isoproply or close to that spelling is what you need i always used abit on my sled. Freeze up can be worse for guys that store bikes in heated garage. The temperature changes causes lots of condensate in the tank leading to water freezing in the lines but i rode lots of -20 to -35 in winnipeg
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