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Road plated.

Postby deltadee » Thu Mar 30, 2017 6:32 am

So I got the 200 and 300 road plated.

All the necessary dual sport doo-dads have been added. They don't seem like they will be in the way for once off the road.. will find out more on Saturday with a little jaunt out to Mclean.

But I was curious to see if any one else had there bikes set up for the road and had any input into what they find works the best.. currently I'm only really concerned with my rear blinkers taking a good beating once the bike is on its side.

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Postby malcolmzilla » Thu Mar 30, 2017 9:29 am

Registered as a motorcycle? New or change to existing registration? What make? TIA
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Postby deltadee » Thu Mar 30, 2017 9:50 am

'13 KTM XC-W and a '13 Gasser EC300

Both had the option of Class 3-MC or Class 3-OHV. I just asked the registry to change the vehicles class, paid the difference cost more because you use the roads and then you just need to meet Alberta vehicle safety requirements. (reflectors, horn, signals, etc.).

I'm pretty sure all European bike's are imported this way.. the motocross edition ones perhaps not? I just asked the registry what the VIN allowed for the vehicle classes.

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Postby malcolmzilla » Fri Mar 31, 2017 9:30 am

Cool, thanks for the information. Curious to see what SRD and CO's do when a smoker pings by em... Jet it lean! :lol:

Anecdotally, from experience, if you get a savvy cop they might really dig into the legality with you. Be polite and play dumb.
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Postby ttwest » Fri Mar 31, 2017 8:17 pm

Both your bikes are totally illegal to put on the Road. If they were not imported into the country as a street-legal bikes to begin with.
you can add all the street legal stuff you want they are still illegal as far as Transport Canada is concerned..you can get insurance and registration but for it to be legal is another issue good luck trying to make a claim with the insurance if you damage or hurt somebody else. It's not worth the risk of getting your... Sued off. All the 2017 betas are imported into Canada as closed course competition motorcycles only. Even the RR - s Street models!

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Postby turbo2point3 » Sat Apr 01, 2017 7:16 am

I went through a few hoops to get my enduro on the street. It needed to pass a out of province inspection to get registration on a bike from BC. I needed DOT tires, horn, mirror, brake light switches and installed some signal lights for a day. Its legal and I ride beside cops and get all kinds of looks like thats not legal lol

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Postby LID » Sat Apr 01, 2017 11:26 am

What did you get for blinkers and stuff?
If it's like the current KTM blinkers they should be fine. I have a 2016 500EXC and the stock rear blinkers have taken a beating from trees, boots, and the ground, and never busted off.
2008 EXC was a different story, kicked them off all the time with lazy get on/offs so I got Sicass flush mount ones for that one.

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Postby Hooligan » Sun Apr 02, 2017 4:06 pm

ttwest wrote:Both your bikes are totally illegal to put on the Road. If they were not imported into the country as a street-legal bikes to begin with.
you can add all the street legal stuff you want they are still illegal as far as Transport Canada is concerned..you can get insurance and registration but for it to be legal is another issue good luck trying to make a claim with the insurance if you damage or hurt somebody else. It's not worth the risk of getting your... Sued off. All the 2017 betas are imported into Canada as closed course competition motorcycles only. Even the RR - s Street models!


It is def a grey area. For a vehicle to be 100% road legal it has to pass Transport Canada certification, which means the manufacturer has to submit a number of samples for inspection etc. Obviously small euro manufacturers don't do this due to the cost. However the bikes come into the country with all the road legal parts and most certainly would pass the certification if they were submitted.

You are most likely technically correct on the issue of insurance but lets face it, what are the chances of an enduro bike causing actionable legal damage to another person? You are probably more likely to get hit by lightning and as motorcyclists our chosen sport is all about taking risks.

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Postby Hooligan » Sun Apr 02, 2017 4:09 pm

My Gas Gas 250F is registered as on-road. It was done by the original owner.

I only ride it on pavement a few times a year but it is nice to be able to do when I want to. Also avoids any possible issues with over eager conservation officers trying to bust OHVs for riding on the road. In fact, as an on-road vehicle the fish cops have next to no authority to hassle, the same as they can't do much about someone driving their car.

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Postby ttwest » Sun Apr 02, 2017 7:21 pm

It's my understanding that conservation officers are peace officers in Alberta and have the same powers.

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Postby deltadee » Mon Apr 03, 2017 6:26 am

Thanks LID, I got the Sicass kit for the 200 so I believe it's like the stock 500 stuff from what I looked at.

Going to have to change the rear lights on the GG as they didn't last the weekend, one slip in the snow and crunch on a tree.. we'll try some flush mounted style one's on the tail. Or at least remount them higher up on the fender.

Thanks for the advice ttwest, but the bikes are not illegal on the road, the NVIS for the bikes says they are dual sport, and properly equipped with Transport Canada required safety equipment. Its no different than any other motorcycle on the road. I've done my due diligence.

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Postby malcolmzilla » Mon Apr 03, 2017 8:48 am

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I'll ride my factory legal 'Berg around town, but from experience, a smart traffic cop can easily harsh your mellow on a gray area converted bike.

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Postby ttwest » Mon Apr 03, 2017 9:11 am

I had a Factory legal 2017 beta 500 RR - s with nivs, insured and plated for the road. I found out the bike is not approved by Transport Canada, and illegal ride on the Road.
I don't see any of the bikes above listed on the transport Canada website as being legal roadworthy bikes. The bike must have the Transport Canada sticker .

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Postby deltadee » Mon Apr 03, 2017 10:46 am

I don't see any of the bikes above listed on the transport Canada website as being legal roadworthy bikes.


ttwest, Can you link me this list?

Didn't mean to spark an argument over legality. Just curious is all. All the reading I did through there regulations ans such I never came across a list that showed which vehicles are road legal.. just what was required to be road legal.

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Postby ttwest » Mon Apr 03, 2017 11:02 am

It's their click on some of the highlights and you'll see the list. Call the insurance company not the broker and Transport Canada tell them what you did to the bike and see what they say. I've been down this road with a couple other bikes that's why I went with a new beta, which unfortunately did not work out either. If it has the Transport Canada sticker on it from New you're good to go.

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